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Episode 108: Mushroom Medicine with Karen King


Hey folks, the episode contains references to drug use so please be mindful of where you are listening in.

In this episode, I am sharing a very personal experience.  Just before the new year, I went on a solo retreat and with the support of a guide, I took psychedelic mushrooms for the first time. 

Psilocybin is the psychoactive ingredient in mushrooms and this is still considered a Class A drug in the UK. But in other countries and in many indigenous and ceremonial cultures, it is used as medicine.

My beloved friend Karen King joins me for this episode. Karen is a Psychedelic-assisted psychotherapist who runs a clinic in Washington State in the US where she uses plant medicines as part of therapy treatments. I thought she would be the ideal person to share my experience with you. 

In this episode we talk about:

  • How we all access states of ‘non-ordinary reality’ throughout the day (driving home and not remembering how you got there, lucid dreams and inspiration in the shower are common examples).
  • I share my experience – what it was like to take a psychedelic trip, physically, psychologically, emotionally, and spiritually. There is a guest appearance by Noel Fielding.
  • We also talk about what happened afterwards – the reality of returning to life in human density after such a profound experience.


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Imperial Centre for Psychedelic Research
What does the UK think about psilocybin research?

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